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We do realize that there are situations that people are in that they want to be out of and we want to move past. We have back in the studio, the author of Real Estates Future also the author of The Foreclosure Sharks white paper, a fantastic manual that he has put together that you can get for free. Dan Havey thank you very much for coming back. You can get a copy of the white paper The Foreclosure Sharks at http://mortgageanswerman.com.
So Dan I know that you have brought the just recently released new Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac guidelines, with their streamlined modification process. This is the kind of thing where the consumer can go and do-it themselves, right?
Yes, except that we would certainly advise against that. These are the guidelines that Fannie Mae came out with; they are effective as of a couple weeks ago now. But with Christmas and the holidays I dont think a whole lot of people have figured out what this is all about yet. So as we said in the last segment the guidelines that they have come out with here, and what I have is a print out but I dont know that this is the whole thing because I have heard some commentary on this that actually says that it is much worse then I am about to relay to everyone on the air.
I am just going to pick out a couple points about this and then I will let Michael laugh about them because some of these things are just crazy in the fact that it doesnt really help the home owner and I also dont think it is going to move us past the conditions we have to get people some really good loan modifications, the kind of loan modifications that we are talking about where you actually employ an attorney to help you with your loan modification.
The reality of it is we need to get through this mess we dont need to stave it off, push it out further and in my opinion that is what this does. That is exactly what is going on here, there was an article I was reading by Fitch, which is one of the major bond rating firms and that is exactly what they said. They said that the alt-A arms are all coming back to roost now, I think the default rate was over 14% on all alt-A arms, being at least 90 days past due. And the comment in the article was something like, well we havent really seen a lot of losses from it yet and then it said in a caveat at the end, and we think its because they are not really foreclosing on any of these guys yet, so that is why they havent seen any losses. Well if you keep pushing it off into the future eventually you are going to have to see some of these losses.
We have the same thing here with Fannie Mae, which I think it is just another band-aid; it is not going to really solve the problem. First what they have here, and this one is pretty benign, that once they give you the new mortgage payment you have a three month trial period. If you make the payments during that trial period they let you keep the modification. So that one is not so bad.
The next one says that the qualified borrower cant be in litigation, bankruptcy, or have an existing work out plan, and you have to be at least 3 months behind or in foreclosure in order to be eligible for this streamline.
Ok I get to comment right? SO basically what Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac just told everyone, according to this that I am reading right here, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac just told you to be 90 days late on your mortgage. That is exactly right, they said that the only way they were going to be able to help you was to be 90 days late on your mortgage.
So I have been, over the past several months, heck Dan you helped us put together the package, you are the cofounder of the modification hotline and I am on the radio every week when we do a little blip about load mods from time to time, saying dont trust anybody who tells you to be late on your mortgage. First of all no loan professional, no mortgage professional, no loan modification specialist will tell you to be late on your mortgage, however, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac just said you need to be at least 90 days late on your mortgage if you want them to help you.
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Part 8 – Ok, so that is good to know, I know there are people who want to try and do that and I really dont know. I am really a full time mortgage professional, I didnt get into the loan modification business on purpose, we write mortgage loans, real estate loans for residential and commercial, so therefore I dont know your laws on the same token you dont do loan modifications and you dont write loans, youre professional realtor.
Exactly, and one more thing, bottom line is you cant be defrauding the bank. Because then youre stepping into mortgage fraud, as you know. You do have to have a hardship, you honestly do have to show, if youre going to be benefiting from staying in the home, you have to show a hardship that you cant afford the current payment. If youre making a couple hundred thousand a year and have a ½ million in the bank and owe $200,000 the bank isnt on your side in that case.
There are a lot of situations though when a homeowner wants to stay in their home, if that is the case, then we market it to investors, because there is a lot of the people who are buying these homes so we work with the investor and we work out the lease amount and the homeowners can stay in their homes in those situations. Whatever it looks like at the end of the day, the homeowner needs to picture where they are going to be in the short term midterm and long term and where this house fits into those plans, if a loan mod isnt right a short sale is a significantly better option than a foreclosure.
They need to call now, they need to take action because you do need to find a place to live and were here to help you, you dont want to get two weeks to the point of foreclosure and have no where to move your family. And the Dreamvestors Team that is your main focus right now, but people still call you for first time home buyers.
We work with buyers as well as people who are short selling. We have been in real estate several years and we didnt want just short sales, were fortunate to have a very strong clientele base and were always taking new clients. We have just adjusted our focus as the market called for it and as our clients called for it.
The other thing too when we talk about these short sales, getting out of that home before it goes to foreclosure is always the best case scenario, the bank is happier with it, the house is more saleable in most cases, people are still living there, its still there home, they still feel like the pride of ownership.
Yes, and in addition, pride of neighborhood is another point. Your neighbors are going to like you better because there is not a foreclosure in their neighborhood, it helps keep the prices up when the bank takes them back the banks price them even lower typically, well sure and then its vacant and we have the potential problem of neighborhood kids turning the house into a paintball arena.
I saw that in a fantastic two story home with an amazing backyard, this house was to die for, a million dollar home and the neighborhood kids turned this house into a paintball arena. Now I am not going to lie, that might have been fun when I was a kid, but this house was trashed, wires hanging out, I mean it was just an absolute mess. The lenders dont want that, you dont want that. They need to take action they need to call you.
Yes educate yourself and call someone today. Folks its important to point out today that I would like to see you call Kalyn and Jeri for this because I know, I have seen their track record. I know their close ratio and I know that they generally care about you and your needs first, but if you have someone who does this and youre contemplating it, if you have a sale date coming up, you need to take action. Move on with your life, put this part of your life behind you.
One of the things to and we dont want to get to deep into this, Jeri or Kalyn, but after the short sale is done its all said and done, you have an affiliation with people who can help them out in getting their credit repaired and ready to go. We do, we really pride ourselves on being a one stop shop, so we help educate them, if its going to be a loan modification or a short sale once they get through the process then we begin working with them on credit repair. We have a program that we work ourselves, and if its a really sticky issue with your credit we have people that we work very closely with that we will refer you to, we also have a team that includes a bankruptcy attorney, a real estate attorney and a real estate CPA… http://realestatemarketingthisweek.com
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- Short Sale and Loan Modifications; great alternative to Foreclosure –
Kalyn Roberts and Jeri league, welcome to the program. Jeri and Kalyn are short sale experts and have graciously decided to come to the program to discuss some of the short sale important things that people do need to know, and were going to get to all of this short sale information, but a couple of things important to mortgage interest rates. Today is a fantastic day in the mortgage rate world. Leslie and Staci at Velocity Financial were kind enough to put together a scenario for us so listen to this folks.
This is not the teaser, this is not the loss leader, this is the real deal as of today, a $417,000 loan amount, the interest rate is 4.875%, thats 4.875% that is below 5% obviously, the APR is 4.948% and that is for a no cash out loan, and that is a special rate and we have a certain allotment of loans that were allowed to do at that special rate. If youre interested in talking to a member of my staff or myself or anyone else about that program you would call. There are people there standing by to take your phone call.
Were a local licensed firm and one of the only 15% of the mortgage companies in the state of Arizona that is licensed to do FHA loans as well. Any mortgage related needs that you have were here to help but for the next hour were going to be talking about Short Sales.
Now over the last several months we have been talking about loan modifications on the show a lot, Velocity Financial was one of the first companies to work with a national network of attorneys, a 16 year old firm that were working with. They have done thousands of these loan modifications, and the loan modification industry in Arizona is for the most part unregulated, but you want to make sure youre working with a licensed firm, and you want to make sure youre utilizing an attorney.
You dont want to be giving money to anybody that says they can get you a loan modification, the only money you give is to an attorney, dont be giving money to people who come by and say they can help you out. Youre going to have to be very careful on how you handle that, but interestingly enough the loan modification is for the mortgage side, essentially the loan modification is to the loan officer what a short sale would be to a realtor.
Now the short sale part of real estate is not something you want to trust to somebody starting out doing short sales, unless they are being supervised by a pro, you dont want to mess around with it. This is not a time to be trying it out, this is not a time for people to be using you as their guinea pig, not a good idea at all.
That is why we brought Jeri and Kalyn in and were going to talk about some of the specifics. You definitely want to make sure that if you need to do a loan modification, if youre facing foreclosure or you want to do a short sale, whatever scenario is the better decision for you and your family, you have got to work with a professional, Jeri and Kalyn have extensive experience, they have an unbelievably great success rate.
It doesnt have to take six months to get this done they can execute this for you and they are the pros so were going to go through some questions over the next hour, there is just one more thing I want to talk about and that is if a loan modification is something you think you need call the office and we have put together a video for you that you can watch, its very short, it explains the process and we will then get together with you and answer any questions that you have… http://realestatemarketingthisweek.com
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Part 2 – Were just going to go ahead if we could and just jump right into the short sale information. Jeri, again thank you so much for taking the time to be with us. What is the name of your firm?
Our group is Dream Vesting Group and our brokerage is Keller Williams Arizona Realty.
So that is great, licensed agents with Keller Williams and I know the two of you and I know of your history and we will talk a little bit more about that, but you have been working together for awhile. You and I had a chance to speak about the short sales and your success rate, very, very impressive proven results always helps. So the natural first question for those that are listening today. What is a short sale exactly?
A short sale is a property sale where the bank or lender agrees to accept less than what is owed to them. So the bank is agreeing to take a loss on the sale of your property, and I like what you said earlier about not trusting a loan modification or a short sale to just anybody, you definitely dont want to be the guinea pig and you dont want to approach the bank yourself and ask them to please take a loss because you need to sell your home.
And that is one of the things that is funny nowadays. I know people have seen them pop up all over the town, the ugly yellow bill boards all over the place. Advertising on the radio about loan modifications and they have 100% success rate, all kinds of these different things. The same thing with short sales, you actually have a process and you have a lot of experience doing it, you know the ins and the outs and this isnt a part time job this is a fulltime job.
Absolutely is a fulltime more than fulltime job, the last three Sundays I have been on the phones with lenders when they are open, one of them has a call center in India. I have been on the phone from 10 oclock at night until Midnight and again at 6am with the same lender trying to stop foreclosure.
Well that is good that you have the time, Take the time to do that. I am sorry that you have to work that many hours but you know Kalyn, is it not true that the sooner we get through all of these short sales and loan modifications the better off were all going to be anyway right?
Absolutely, a lot of people ask, what does it take? Who should be considering a short sale? If youre late on your mortgage currently, if your mortgage has adjusted, if you can no longer afford your monthly payment, if you foresee yourself not being able to afford your monthly payments, any of these instances plus several more, you should definitely be sitting down with someone and talking about your options which would be most likely a short sale or loan modification.
Yes the last thing anyone wants, and I mean anyone, is a foreclosure, that is the last resort. Nobody wants a foreclosure; you dont want it on your record, you dont want to have to deal with that. Its a very public event, a foreclosure is, the banks dont want you to foreclose and that is probably why they are so willing to work with you would you say? Absolutely the banks dont want the home back no matter what they tell you.
Exactly and on the loan modification side people try on their own to do this and its true that people can actually do a loan modification on their own but there are so many pitfalls and its just not something you want to try on your own. Surely you dont want to try a short sale on your own. So Jeri let me ask you this, what are some of the main objections?
The main objection that we hear from most of our clients is the cost to them, they already cant afford the payment on their mortgage or they wouldnt be in that particular situation 9 times out of 10 and so they are concerned about cost. Most people have already resigned themselves to the fact that they are losing their home and they dont want to spend any more money on it.
The good news is in a short sale you dont have to spend anymore money, all of the costs are absorbed by the bank. They agree to lose more money basically, so there is no realtor fees and the majority of the time we can negotiate an as is contract so if there are repairs that need to be made they dont come to you and ask you to do it, its just factored into the cost. So its very effective for homeowners.
And again it keeps them from going into foreclosure. They get to stay in the house and they get to save whatever is left of their dignity, some people take it very pride fully as well. So Kalyn, the second most common objection is?… http://realestatemarketingthisweek.com
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Before the subprime crisis, a qualified home buyer would simply visit his own home town bank, and that bank would then offer to that qualifier home buyer a traditional prime rate mortgage.
Investment bankers began to buy prime loans and put them together and make mortgages-backed securities and create derivatives (many mortgages-backed securities together). In order to sell to investors, investment bankers would have to slice the derivatives in tranches and gave them ratings. This process is called securitisation. These tranches have a range that go from AAA (triple A), being this the highest rating, to BBB- (triple B minus) the lowest rate. The BBB´s are the first to lose money and the AAA´s are the last ones. The BBB´s have the highest credit risk. The BBB´s have a higher expected yield (so the risk is the highest too). The problem began when prime loans got mixed with the subprime loans. Investment bankers wanted to get a part of this action and then they began to include subprime mortgages in the derivatives and they were selling them to outside investors.
Then unfortunately a combination of the Wall Street greed and the Government´s desire to increase home ownership (The known American Dream) make subprime mortgages become wildly available to the masses. This increase in home ownership caused an artificial increase in home prices until the borrowers default.
Because of these defaulting borrowers the derivatives in which the subprime mortgages are included became a worthless investment. Big and small investors lost a fortune. Home prices began to fall, and foreclosures increased.
And then economies around to world began to collapse as credit froze, and the banks ultimately needed to be bailed out by the tax payers.
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Part 6 – The next one is that your loan to value on your house has to be at least 90% of the property value. So in other words everyone under 90% gets foreclosed on? Right, if you only owe 80% of what your home is worth, they can foreclose on you, take your house and they dont lose as much money.
Back when I was working with Fannie Mae selling repos almost 20 years ago now, they always gave us the figure that they lost 20% of the homes value every time they had to foreclose. So they have plenty of room to sell your house if you only owe 80% on it. So if you owe, lets just throw out some numbers here, lets say your house is worth $100,000 and you owe $80,000 on it, well they are going to lose a little bit but they are going to make it back when they sell your house for $100,000.
Yes, they would just as soon kick you out and keep their money. Yes, exactly I am not necessarily going to say that Fannie Mae is going to kick you out of your house, however the reason why they have this guideline is very simple, they are not going to lose money on you if they have to foreclose on you when you are under 90%. They certainly are not going to lose very much money.
If you have subordinate loans it may be left outstanding and will not be considered in the LTV, so lets just give an example here, your house is worth $300,000 and you have a $300,000 1st mortgage and you happen to have a $50,000 second mortgage. They will re-modify your 1st mortgage but leave the 2nd mortgage in place. So people get to stay underwater, or upside down.
Well certainly you would be in that case and it just does not sit right. The best thing I certainly would like to see them do if nothing else in a situation like that is combine it all into one loan at a much lower interest rate. Because you know that 2nd mortgage is probably going to have a high interest rate. So it would just be so much better.
We need verification of income that makes sense. Here is one I dont get, 38% as far as your debt to income ratio. That seems kind of high to me. What do you think Michael?
Well I think that people who have gotten themselves into trouble and they need to do something like a loan modification then 38% is probably on the high side. People need relief, but they need relief that is going to last a long time. Even though this is essentially a trial-period loan modification this particular guideline of 38% really does not set well with me, I personally think it needs to be lower. People need a break; people need to be able to stay in their house.
Well what I was looking at is your average family; I always think probably pays about 30% of their gross income towards taxes, payroll, and things like that, so right off the bat Uncle Sammy takes 30%. Well now that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are owned by the government Uncle Sammy is going to get another 38% out of your paycheck which is a total of 68%, that doesnt leave a whole lot of money does it? Especially if you have a car payment, or you have kids to feed, maybe who go to daycare while you go off to work, assuming you still have a job. The unemployment rate is pretty high.
Well in order to qualify for this you do have to have income so you do have to have a job. So moving on to the next one because we are getting a little short on time, what they are going to do is take all of your back interest, escrow advances, costs, fees, everything they are going to add it to the loan amount and have you pay it back over as much as 50 years, if they need to stretch it out that long. Theyre going to give you a 50 year mortgage? I looked at that and thought, why dont you make it interest only because you are never going to pay the thing off anyway.
Lowest acceptable rate that they’ll have is 3%. The real kicker, if they get you a rate of 3% it will be an adjustable rate because it’s below today’s market rate. Your rate will actually increase starting five years from now at 1% per year until it gets up to the market rate. So not only are they getting a 50 year loan that you will never pay off, theyre giving you an adjustable-rate loan on top of it. If they give you 3% today it will begin to adjust up in the five years until it reaches today’s market rate. I think today’s market rate is about 6%, so you may get 3% for a couple years but eventually they go back up to 6%… http://realestatemarketingthisweek.com
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Part 7 – We have Dan Havey with us talking about loan modifications. This segment we want to talk about the specifics of the actual mechanics of, how does it actually work for the homeowner? Let me just start it off and if you would then explain the back end of how it works. Our job is to determine where you’re at now, be very specific about where you’re at with your mortgage now, what the rate is, what it’s done, those specifics. How much you make? We have to help the lender with one thing which is to establish a hardship which is crucial to this. You can’t be making half $1 million a year paying $5000 a month in a mortgage, they are not just going to lower your interest rate because you want it. There actually has to be some sort of change, financial change, hardship.
We determined that and then there is a significant amount of paperwork involved, Velocity Financial takes care of that for you. We fill out the paperwork along with your help, review all of the documentation, we then recommend be right loan modification, whether it be an interest rate reduction, or extending the term of your loan, waiving some of the balance that you owe which is very very rare. To make sure that once we’re done with this whole process you can sustain and live in that house and be happy forever.
So the process itself really is not that much different than what people went through when they got their loan in the first place. That is correct and it’s kind of funny, this has to be exactly the reverse. There is paperwork that we need to collect on your mortgages, we check the value of the property to see where you’re at and in most cases youre underwater with the value. We dont do an appraisal though, there is no credit analysis, we do review your finances, and these sorts of things but essentially it’s just like doing a loan. What we’re trying to determine is exactly what is sustainable for you.
So what we do at the modification hotline at Velocity Financial is to put together the entire package, just like we do for a loan package because we basically send this to a underwriter, theyre not known as an underwriter they’re known as a loan modification coordinator but at modification hotline we are the first set of eyes. We work with you directly, getting all the paperwork in, getting it put together because we know exactly what has to be in that file, how it has to be stacked, how it has to be presented, before it goes to the loan modification coordinator who works for the attorney.
Then once it is at the attorneys office with their modification coordinator, they take a look at it, they make sure that everything is in there, they make sure that it is a doable modification. This all happens before it is ever presented to an attorney.
There are a whole lot of steps and there is a lot of paperwork. The process like you said is very similar to a loan with the exception that there are no costs of the title company and all that other stuff. Those dont exist, we dont charge an upfront fee, and we do collect a retainer for the attorney. At some point during our process we make our recommendations and we turn it in. Then the attorney does their due diligence and thats where I really want you to explain what happens, what are these attorneys looking for?
Well this is where it completely goes off track, versus what a homeowner would do if they were doing their own modification, because they would do everything we just talked about, they would fill out the paperwork, get together tax returns, pay stubs, whatever the lender wanted and they would present all of it to the lender. Now they probably wouldn’t know exactly how to stack some of the paperwork, and how to calculate some of the things that we know how to calculate, but they would put all that they work together.
Where the difference comes in is once it gets to the attorney because the attorney ultimately wants to get you a loan modification but they can’t just call up the bank and say hey I want loan modification, because he is going to get the same result you did. So what he has to do is he has to go through the file, and he has to look for things like, I am going to use a bunch of acronyms here, he’s looking for things like TILA, RESPA, HOEPA, HUD violations, all these different guidelines that the lender was required to meet while giving you the loan… http://RealEstateMarketingThisWeek.com
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Part 3 – As promised just before the break, I told you to, listen in if you know anyone who has a GMAC Mortgage, this is one of those too good to be true things. Heres the thing, I have no issues what-so-ever with GMAC, thats not what Im saying, what Im saying is there is a scam of sorts that is going around. A client of ours received a letter, we did a second mortgage for this person a few years ago, they received a letter from GMAC, it looked like GMAC, it sounded like GMAC, and it said that we are willing to forgive your second mortgage of 200 and some thousand dollars in lieu of a one time payment, payable within the next 30 days, of say 20 thousand dollars.
I dont recall the exact amount or what it was. There is a phone number on there, it says loss mitigation department on it, a person assigned to this case. They called the phone number, they answered the phone as if you were calling into the loss mitigation department, and verified if you just send us this amount they will release the lien. Well it is completely false. It is absolutely not true.
These people are not going to seek you out on their own, now whether it be GMAC, today we have actually seen that one, there may be other ones out there. Folks, if you are getting stuff like this you need to verify it and you need to verify it by sources other than the information on the letter that you have received. If you get an email that says your bank account has been tapped into you need to check, chances are it is some kind of a phishing scam and this is no different.
We have gone back to identity theft through the mail and if you have been a party to this you need to verify and check into it, and you need to contact the authorities immediately for more information, if you need help with this sort of situation you are welcome to give us a call at 480 Velocity.
It is pretty amazing that that kind of thing still exists, and with the announcement by Paulson today that the fact is they are no longer willing to buy bad mortgages off the books of the banks. When you come across a phishing scam such as this one there is not a bank out there, I dont care what kind of trouble they are in, that is going to take $0.10 on the dollar to forgive a loan.
In a situation where things are going well, you are right in a situation where things are going well, and the status quo, they are going to be pursued by an attorney, that is entirely different, they are not just going to volunteer up and give you the money, its not going to happen.
Absolutely not and thats where we get back into what a loan modification is, who it benefits, and how it works and so forth, you are starting to see these wheels in motion amongst all of these banks. One of those wheels is certainly not well forgive $200,000 in debt if you write us a check for $20, 000.
And when we have talked about this Brett you and I have had many conversations in regard to what does it take? Can a person do this on their own, we will get to that a little later, but the answer is Yes. A consumer can actually do it on their own, up until very recently with the new announcements made from some of these major servicers and investors, up until then, a person trying to do it on their own would take days upon days and hours and hours on the phone not getting calls back trying to find time during the day while working to get this done and in many cases they are going to get a temporary fix.
The loss mitigation department for the bank that you have your mortgage with, their job is not to mitigate your loss its to mitigate their loss. They are out to protect the bank, thats why we use the national network of attorneys that we do, that are specialists, that have done thousands of these loan modifications, that go to bat for you. By the way folks, they are not going through the loss mitigation door that you would have to go through they are going right to the legal department, they are going to threaten suit if necessary, they are going to do discovery work, they are going to find out if there was anything that was misrepresented either by the bank or the broker and take that angle… http://realestatemarketingthisweek.com
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